H. L. Nigro

Is Amazon’s BookSurge Really a Raw Deal?

by H. L. Nigro ~ April 17th, 2008. Filed under: Publishing Basics.

Recently, Amazon announced that all self-, subsidy, and small publishers would have their “buy” buttons turned off on their Amazon pages unless they produced those books through its BookSurge POD printing/publishing unit. The outcry from the self- and small publishing community was immediate and fierce. How dare Amazon force them into an in-house production model against their will? Surely, the move would favor Amazon at the expense of the small and self-publisher. Doesn’t everyone know that BookSurge has a reputation for poor quality and horrific customer service? Here we go again—the little guy getting trounced by the big, bad, monopolistic retailer.

But is that really the case?

As a niche publisher who also offers book development and editing services, the announcement was alarming. Would I be forced to set up a BookSurge account and add all of my titles to its inventory in order to keep my relationship with Amazon? Would the quality be inferior? Would it cost me a bundle? What was I to tell my editing and book development clients who were planning to self-publish?

After monitoring the situation through the online community and hearing very little new information—just the same complaints over and over again—I decided to call BookSurge myself. What I found was that there is a lot of misinformation out there. In fact, the situation was more favorable for small and self-publishers than I’d initially thought.

Correcting Misinformation

After talking to an Amazon executive, I found that BookSurge did, in fact, have problems with production quality and customer service at one time. But when Amazon purchased BookSurge three years ago, it overhauled its staffing, production equipment, and business practices. It is not the same BookSurge that many consultants, printers, and publishers remember.

Although the executive would not disclose what type of equipment was being used, I had already heard product names filtered through the grapevine, and if accurate, they meant that BookSurge is using cutting-edge production quality equipment, the same as any commercial-quality print-on-demand production facility. I had also read list serve posts from more than one author/publisher who—in the face of the onslaught of negative comments about BookSurge—countered that they had recently set up with BookSurge and were thrilled with the quality. In fact, they felt that the quality was comparable to (or even better than) that of one of the top POD printers.

I had heard many complaints about limited trim sizes, too, but like the complaint about quality, I found these to be unfounded. Trim sizes from 4x6” to 8 ½ x 10 ½” were offered by BookSurge, in ¼” increments, with more being added all the time.

As for cost? BookSurge charges a $50 per-book set-up fee, which is less than my current POD print provider charges, and during this transition period, the cost is being waived entirely for authors and publishers adding files to the BookSurge inventory on a one-time basis.

So much for Amazon being a tyrant forcing publishers into unprofitable business relationships. In fact, it would cost me nothing to set up my entire title list with BookSurge, and based on its low per-book pricing, my Amazon margins would actually be higher than I am currently getting. Plus, Amazon isn’t requiring exclusivity. I could continue to maintain my current supplier relationship for all non-Amazon sales.

“Forced” to Work with BookSurge?

It had also been rumored that at least one major publisher had been “forced” into the BookSurge relationship. I also found that to be untrue. In fact, more than a dozen major publishers have already signed on with BookSurge. But they weren’t forced to do it. They did it back in 2007. Among them: HarperCollins, John Wiley & Sons, McGraw-Hill, Pearson, Springer, Gale, Oxford University Press, Cambridge University Press, Princeton University Press, SAGE Publications, Kensington, Hal Leonard, LexisNexis, and the International Step by Step Association.

This list is from a press release dated May 2007. That’s more than one year ago. Those publishers weren’t “forced” into a relationship with BookSurge. They made the move because it was beneficial. How many more publishers have signed on since then?

Some have wondered why large POD printers like Lightning Source have not been more vocal about their opposition to Amazon’s decision. With a stable of large publishing clients with thousands of titles, this would surely give them the clout to fight. But the number of large publishers who have already set up with BookSurge may provide the answer. Those printers may have lost their big stick long ago.

After extensive talks with BookSurge, I have a far more favorable impression than when I went in. In fact, I wonder how many of the negative experiences circulating the online community came from its pre-Amazon days. If this is the case, so much has changed since that time that those experiences are irrelevant.

I also wonder whether all of the fuss that is being kicked up over Amazon’s decision is actually helping BookSurge. The chatter creates a high level of fear and anxiety among authors and publishers, and no matter how offended they may be, out of a sense of self-preservation, they look into BookSurge. When they do, they find that it’s not as bad as they thought. In fact, they could potentially make more money from POD sales than they would with their current subsidy publisher or print provider.

So as authors, publishers, and industry consultants rant about the unfairness of it all, BookSurge is sitting back and reaping all of the new customers who come its way out of fear but stay for the higher profit margins.

Enter CreateSpace Pro

Here’s another interesting tidbit: At the same time that Amazon made its announcement about BookSurge, it quietly added a new option to its CreateSpace program—CreateSpace Pro. Production is identical to BookSurge. Distribution options are identical. The only difference is that, in the BookSurge model, each customer is assigned a publisher’s rep. With CreateSpace, the interface comes through the Internet. With the CreateSpace models, payment also comes through a “revenue sharing” model that, at least for my titles (based on print cost, cover price, and offered discount) would result in higher margins for Amazon sales.

With CreateSpace Pro, there is a $50 set-up fee per book that is currently not being waived by Amazon, but the book printing costs for direct book orders are substantially lower than through the standard CreateSpace and BookSurge models.

In the end, after looking at all of the options, I came away with the feeling that, far from Amazon offering a sour deal to authors and publishers, it may be offering a better mousetrap for some authors and publishers. Yes, it would take a little time to move titles over, but the trade-off isn’t a relationship with a big, bad bully, but a potentially more profitable selling partner.

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5 Responses to Is Amazon’s BookSurge Really a Raw Deal?

  1. Bill Adams

    If BookSurge is really using cutting-edge production equipment now, why not tell you what it is? Seems odd. Complaints about bad quality books that I’ve seen are all post-Amazon buy, often within the last year.

    And you don’t mention the high discount rate. Six months ago, we could work through Lightning source and get a 25% short discount rate on Amazon sales. Booksurge takes a lot more.

    CreateSpace Pro does offer offer a 20% short discount off their CreateSpace store, though no better than 40% off Amazon sales. Still, not a terrible deal — _if_ and only if, the poor production stories aren’t true.

  2. Tony Burton

    I don’t know about BookSurge quality. I have heard complaints even in the last couple of weeks about product quality from there, and read about books not being available that are BookSurge books, even though they are POD.

    One thing that really bothers me, since I can’t pin down the quality or availability issue, is Amazon’s tight and one-way grip on pricing. Let’s say I let them print a version of my book through BookSurge, and the retail is 10.95. From what I have read, I cannot price it anywhere else lower than that, even on my own publisher’s website. Yet, Amazon can discount it as much as they like! I don’t like it when someone else has more control over my actions than I have, in the pricing of my own products. If they want to say, “We won’t discount it and you can’t either,” even though that sticks in my craw, it still would be better than, “You can’t discount the book’s price, but we at Amazon can! We can undercut you, so sod off!”

    In that aspect, they *are* being a big, bad bully, and it’s unacceptable.

  3. Patricia Alvarado

    Piggy Press is a small publishing house in the Republic of Panama, where the market is limited. In an effort to have a larger presence online, we signed up with Amazon Advantage in 2004. This didn’t work well for us because of shipping and handling problems. So at the end of 2004, when I heard about BookSurge and its connection with Amazon, I signed up and was more than pleased with the professional attention I received. When Amazon acquired BS in 2005, things got even better. Piggy Press now has over 40 titles listed on BookSurge/Amazon, and we are also working with CreateSpace to produce our audio books on demand. The books and CDs that BookSurge and CreateSpace produce are top notch.

  4. Ted Bowman

    We published with RJ last summer. Beautiful book. Looking to reprint soon. What do I need to do to keep our book available at Amazon?

    Ted and Judith Bowman

  5. Wicked Sunny

    I am writing and publishing my books through createspace.com , they have waived the pro plan fees till this month’s end.

    Regarding quality, living in India, I cannot say what quality you guys expect but my first two books proof looked amazing, much better than I believe any printer in India can provide.

    Yes they have limited options right now, like no gloss paper, but I hope they will grow as huge as lulu.com soon enough.

    customer service is A++++

    I have been in constant touch with them for over one month now, with over 150 emails, average of two emails per day . They have been amazingly tolerant and patient in replying with adequate solutions to all my problems, even accepting and changing few of the options I suggested which would suit international writers.

    I was not expecting such service when I started. I am going to stick with them for a long long time.

    Already have created about 20 titles with them including recipe books. 2 books are published working on the third.

    Plus you get your book listed on amazon without any hurdles.

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